Bob, sent me this article along with his thoughts. I’m going to attempt to understand what he means, as well as what the article is stating, and reply to both.
The article says: People are less attracted to church membership today. Less than half in the US now claim church membership. The lowest in the history of this polling. That means for the Muslims for the Jews for the cults and for the church that none of them have a message that tends to draw more but fewer members today. In fact these non members who outnumber the members of all of these groups are called the NONE’s.
The gospel is as the Bible says the good news, it has been preached or made available more in this country and to the people of our time than to any other nation possibly in all of history. The same is true for the world.
In answer to what Bob concludes, the gospel message itself when understood should imply that the men bringing it have been, and in some ways still are a flawed bunch of disagreeables, and in some cases hypocrites even as Paul once accused Peter of being. These are transforming sinners who have been offered and who received and are walking in God’s grace just as you and I are.
The main problem today is that people don’t believe the message presented in the Bible, or by its ministers. Most people saying that they believe in God don’t even know if they believe the Bible version of God. And that goes for many in the liberal churches. Probably even many in the conservative churches. Certainly this statement is true of most all of those who are not churched, but who are among those still saying that there may be a God.
God has given all of us faith to believe, but He then holds us accountable for where we place that belief.
Also, to Bob I would say that I did not come to Christ because of observing others, but because God either honored or caused my searching for Him when I was yet lost, even though I was raised in church. The Holy Spirit’s draw in my life was to the scriptures and to Christian literature. I read David Wilkerson’s book the cross and the switchblade, and it was during the reading of that book that God spoke to me, and it was then that I surrendered my life to Him. But I had heard the gospel many times and for many long years before that reading and that meeting with our Lord.
After that, I read other of Wilkersons books, and those of other Christians since then; and in his as well as those others, there were messages to the church which were much more convicting stating how we should live, what Bob might call judgmental of the church body for being hypocritical as we often are.
It was my experience that in my case at least I had to come to hunger after our Lord before I could meet Him as savior. Jesus possibly only showed His anger or judgment against two groups during His earthly ministry. One group was the religious leadership, who were those over His fathers house — the teachers of His flock. The other group was those (anyone) who would offend the children.
In Matt 24:45-51, He tells us who the faithful servant is and what he is doing. He is feeding the proper food at the proper time, and he is not carousing with the worldly. In other words the Gospel is the proper milk for the lost, and the way of righteousness is the proper meat for the flock, and the prophetic word is proper meat when its season arrives.
In fact Bob, as these times that we are in advance Jesus and Paul had stated that men would depart from the faith. And yes people will be deceived, so much so, that if the days were not cut short not even the elect would be saved.
We are living in very dangerous and deceptive times.
In my original response to Bob, I did not address the political comment that he makes. I will do that in my next article as this is getting quite long.

This is a prayer that we all should pray. Thanks Roy for sending this to me. Below is a link to the article Bob refers to, and below is Bobs’s concern as well as his comments to me concerning this article.
https://apple.news/Ao4b7oimKSf2KSRLwjS9Azw
Jerry,
Interesting statistics in the following article. The rate at which the decline in religious affiliation is accelerating tells me there are some serious problems with American Christianity today. We used to have a compelling, attractive message of God’s love and grace—the message David Wilkerson took to gang members and addicts in New York City. I think many religious leaders, especially evangelicals, have become far more judgmental and peddlers of fear and hate, driving young people away from the church. Many Christians seem to be distorting the gospel. It’s no longer “good news” but worldly, especially when used to “demonize” people who don’t share their narrow political agenda. It also seems that many Christians have embraced bizarre conspiracy theories (e.g. QAnon) which makes them appear to be kooks to rational unbelievers.
Of course, all this is conjecture on my part but if I were an unbeliever today, I would find very few Christians whose lives would inspire me to pursue their faith. They wouldn’t see Christians living out their beliefs in a way that makes them say “I want to have what they have. Those Christians have something in their lives that I don’t have and I want to find out what it is so I can experience the same thing in my own life.”
I think we have a great opportunity today because so many people are experiencing crises in their lives, be it medical, financial, or social (e.g. racial injustice). I hope we don’t squander the chance to offer hope to those who are struggling and desperately need help.
I’ll get off my soapbox now.
Bob
This is a Word the Lord gave me over 5 years ago (Feb. 26, 2016)
THE THINGS TO COME
“I spake unto thee in thy prosperity;
but thou hast said I will not hear.
This hath been thy manner from thy youth,
that thou obeyed not my voice”
JEREMIAH 22:21
God is speaking to His Own in the day of prosperity. HE calls out to them, HE seeks to warn them of the storm that is about to break, yet they will not hear. The teachings of this hour dismiss obedience as a “legalistic” approach to our new understanding of “love” (see Revelation 3:19). We are told over and over again that we are OK and that somehow the God of the New Testament is not interested in obedience. We have a “gospel” that removes the fear of God from our land. To this people that will not hear and will not obey God goes on to say…
“The wind shall eat up all thy pastors (*NOTE2),
and thy lovers shall go into captivity:
surely THEN shalt thou be
ashamed and confounded
for all thy wickedness”
JEREMIAH 22:22
He will remove the pastors who comfort those who should not be comforted. HE will take away their trust in men and the forms of gathering that prevent people from realizing their own responsibility to seek, hear and obey God for themselves. The storm is about to hit and we are unaware.
God speaks in the day of prosperity because in times of prosperity men tend to forget God; they become comfortable in a religion that does not convict. They glory in a form of truth, an appearance of something that is alive but in reality is dead. God speaks to His Church in Sardis…
“These things saith HE
that hath the seven Spirits of God,
and the seven stars; I know thy works,
that thou hast a name
that thou art alive, and art dead”
REVELATION 3:1
These are people who have not grown in their walk with God. The Bread of Life has not been developed within them; they hear much and see little. They have not developed a living relationship with the Fountain of Life and have a constant need to be fed rather than becoming bread for others. God will remove those pastors who have loved the place of pre-eminence in the assemblies but have not been burdened over the condition of the people of God. God will remove those who have spoken smooth things in this day, who have ministered a spirit of slumber, who have spoken “peace, peace” when there is no peace. Rather than sounding out the alarm in the day of the Lord (Joel 2:1), rather than calling people to repentance and righteousness, they have sought to comfort them with a gospel that makes men comfortable with sin and disobedience.
It is in the removal of these things that the people of God are suddenly struck with the true nature of their condition before a Holy God. God must remove these influences that in seeing their true condition they will turn unto Him in heartfelt brokenness to find mercy and grace. God’s end is always to bring men and women to Himself. He does not chasten His Own without the motive to draw them near, heal them, and restore them into a right relationship with Himself.
“So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth. Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear (*NOTE 1); and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent”
REVELATION 3:16-19
*1 NOTE: This prophetic word to His Church concerning their nakedness is in stark contrast to the teachings of this hour. We have a teaching that we are already clothed in righteousness and that we need not concern ourselves with such things! This Word was given in around 90AD over 20 years after the martyrdom of Paul! How false and erroneous are the teachings of our day. God says “As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten”, this is the true LOVE OF GOD, blessed are those who have ears to hear and hearts to respond to Him in this hour.
1. “Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments, and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.” (Revelation 3:4)
2. “Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.” (Revelation 16:15)
People who are content with such things (declared righteousness) are those who fail to realize their own responsibility to keep their garments clean; they cannot hear, are not able to see, and will not obey the voice of God in this hour.
*2 NOTE: This removal of Pastors is nothing new in the history of the church. The most recent occurrence of this on a large scale was in China (1950’s) when the Communist Government removed the pastors and installed their own and the visible organized church became a sounding board for the government. Those who had been a part of what was called “the Little Flock Movement”, where the people of God developed their own walk, simply went underground and the church of God flourishes to this day.
“As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten:
be zealous therefore, and repent”
REVELATION 3:19
Brian Troxel
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Brian, well said my brother. If we don’t listen to His voice within us we are without power to live the life He has called us unto. Stay strong my brother.
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