These will be days of deception; days of endurance for the saints, who will be eagerly awaiting His return. Days of much needed discernment for each one’s own endurance.
Hopefully we will wrap this series up today. This will make our 4th post on this list of differences according to Dispensationalism.
CONCERNING THE RAPTURE
CONCERNING THE SECOND COMING
Beginning with #12: Scripture is very clear every eye will see Him when He comes. What a glorious day that will be. Revelation is up front with that promise. But no verse will say or even intimate that only those looking for Him will see Him. We will see that evidence in a bit. There will be fear in a world without Him when we see Him. That also we shall see.
And for us we who will be looking for Him will be joining in on what Scripture says of those looking for Him in these very days. Even so, we now are doing such.
One such Scripture:
Hebrews 9:28 so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a “second time” for salvation without [reference to] sin, to those who eagerly await Him. (NASB1995)
This verse really well represents our blessed hope as Believers. When we see Him our sins will be as far as the east is from the west, but this doesn’t tell us anything about how the world is feeling at this time. So, there is a verse (a passage) that will let us know that information, but before we get to it we need to point out that there is no one verse telling us that only we will see Him when He comes for us. I think 2 Thessalonians 1:7–10 is one of the most important passages related to this “second time” of His coming. In this verse we hear of a change in our state of being when He comes. Here we enter our rest.
Paul says in this verse that relief comes:
“…when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels.”
It’s important to notice that everything within the surrounding verses accompanying this appearing, which is a revelation, is definitely now unhidden (the King is revealed) and the world is fully aware of what is happening: (see Rev. 6:15).
In the 2 Thess. passage we have:
- mighty angels
- flaming fire
- judgment
- punishment of unbelievers
- glorification of believers
Nothing here resembles a hidden event for anyone including us and the world is fully aware. And it’s all climaxing at once.
In 2 Thessalonians 2:8, Paul writes of “the appearing (epiphaneia) of His coming (parousia)”—using the two words for Christs coming. These are used together in one integrated event. This suggests that Paul sees in that passage, epiphaneia and parousia are not separate stages but two complementary descriptions of the same coming. Yet the two different words according to Dispensationalists do represent two different comings. Not so my brethren. Though I love you or perhaps because I love you I must point out these things that I am.
In #14, we are told that there is no judgment seat of Christ on earth but that there is one in heaven. So let’s examine just when the Dispensationalists tell us that this Bema Judgment Seat events will take place. Below is a chart showing the pre-Trib Rapture, it also gives us both in the chart and in its accompanying article 5 choices as to when this judgment could take place. So, I ask, would you believe that they might know where it will take place, if they don’t even know when? I think not, but neither does the Scripture tell us. But Jesus does tell us that when He comes He will judge every man for what he has done. There is no scripture telling us when or where, but it could be that here upon this earth that it happens as our part in what He stated;
Revelation 22:12 “Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward [is] with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. (NASB1995)
But, what you are doing my Dispensational brother may just go to show how disinterested you are to be sticking to the actual truth of Scripture, and just how determined instead you are to the winning of an argument even when you have no Scripture to support your bold statements of fact.
Meanwhile you our teacher whom we do love for you are a believer in Christ (a brother), and if a brother in Christ strays from the truth James says that we are to turn him back. At the bottom of this post are two late clips from you “our teacher”. (don’t click here, go to bottom)
I share his message for you the reader. And I will send this post to you “our teacher” as I have done with the others, because after all you have provided the incentive for these posts. In much of this teaching on Rapture you do go against Scripture.
So by sending you these posts, I do it in order to ask you to think about just how committed you are to what seems to be a seriously lack of Scriptures support for what you preach; for you have stated your position to be explained with scripture interpreting your version of the Rapture. You state it as being separate from Jesus Coming. Yet here in the second short clip you are claiming to have all the scriptural support needed to prove anyone disagreeing with you as the false prophet. In other of your videos you are discussing events and signs, which are needed to be fulfilled setting up Jesus coming. So is the Lord’s coming imminent now to you or are you and are we as the disciples of Christ to be looking within Scripture in order to find guidance with the signs given, as they now seem to be happening?
Looking for the signs of Jesus coming is looking for Jesus coming. He is our blessed hope for so many reasons. But certainly for the ending of these evil days and for His coming to reign on this earth. Our hope is in His coming to set up His Kingdom. Father, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Make it so Lord. Even so come Lord Jesus.
I share this to further inform that when Jesus comes in Wrath here in Isaiah 63, no man is with Him. The Rapture has not yet happened. He is here saving Israel before the Resurrection and before God’s full Wrath taught by Him does occur.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (KJV)
Scripture explains scripture. No man yet with Him, the Rapture cannot have occurred yet.
My brother please don’t miss the teachings that are obvious within Scripture.
Below is the full article on Christ’s Bema Judgment of His people.
And Then Messiah Shall Come 