The greatest evidence or proof for which one (pre or post) is correct is found in the scriptures used by Dispensationalist themselves to prove their contention. We have in the past looked at Peter’s contention, that Paul’s scripture passages are twisted with reference to what he (Peter) is teaching on (The Day of The Lord). But in this post we will look at scripture other than Pauls, which are being twisted. Your job as a Berean is to determine which message is using the twisted version of the scriptures. Let’s look at a Terry James quote:
“For this great event (the first phase of Christ’s Second Coming), there is no notice. No one knows the time of its occurrence. In the case of the Second Advent (the second phase), the exact number of days until its occurrence can be calculated.”*
(This above statement is referring to Jesus telling us that “no man knows the day or the hour of His coming)
*Then, Scripture records Christ’s most profound prophetic indicator to prove the point that this will not be a secret Rapture:”*
(Then this scripture is quoted as support of what has just been said.)
Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. (Luke 17:28-30)
I will deal with his second point and this scripture first, because The Dispensational use of this passage is so obviously wrong. The first needs further scripture in order for us to understand its error.
So, Terry’s point in using this scripture just read is that Lot represents the church , and “the first phase of Christ’s Second Coming”, which makes this phase a taught and known event rather than a secret event. But though many if not all Dispensationalists use this scripture to teach a pre-Trib Rapture, it does not.
I said earlier that the teaching here is obvious. If Lot is meant at all by the Holy Spirit to teach the Rapture; then it must be Post Trib. For when Lot is taken out of Sodom, there is immediate destruction. There is no teaching of an extended period of tribulation for Sodom following Lots removal, but only an immediate destruction rained down.
Also if this example is really used to teach the Rapture, wouldn’t we also need to teach that among those taken up in rapture that there would be some destroyed in the air before they reached heaven? This is what happened as Lot’s wife looked back during Lot’s catching away. And the real point of this example in scripture is just that if one loves the world and the things of the world more than they do the Lord; then they are doomed.
Back to his contention concerning “Second Advent (the second phase), the exact number of days until its occurrence can be calculated.*
This will require a bit more scripture to unravel. So the exact number of days if calculated from the beginning of the making of a covenant or some say a peace treaty to begin this period, and last until the end of Tribulation is known, and it is. It will be 7 years. But we are not to know the day or the hour of the Lords return. So if the timing is post-Trib how can this be? This will be the subject of our next post otherwise this will get too long. I do get complaints over the length of my posts. See you next time.
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Not sure on the relevance of the when… Pre-Mid-Post. The real issue of the life of a Christian is not when He comes but, when He comes am I doing His Will.
“And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants… Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing” Luke 12:38,43
The real issue is if He come in the second watch or the third the real message is are we walking right.
In the Parable of the 10 Virgins they all knew of His eminent return but that knowledge of knowing when did not help the five foolish ones. He said He will come in a time that we think not… Jesus word to us is “therefore be ready…”
“Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not”
Luke 12:40
Live each day alive unto Him and dead unto the world… and may we minister the truth of being ready when He comes. I need your ministration and others to live right and to be right as we are brothers in a great wonder… The Body of Christ.
The reality of His coming lies in the truth that He may come for us individually tomorrow and all the pre-mid-post concerns is irrelevant.
My personal conviction is the one of “today” if we will hear His voice and walk closely and intimately with Him we will not miss Him.
“And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming”
1 John 2:28
Love your heart and friendship…
BT
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Thanks Brother Brian, and I fully understand your point, my concern is that there were 5 foolish virgins prophesied by our Lord, and expectations lead to actions. I have listened to your messages wherein you warn of dangers coming. I was raised under pre-Trib teachings which seemed to downplay the dangers and emphasize the escapism mentality. Therefore the lack of oil in the lamp was understood to represent someone else who was unsaved and never me. And you are right for the vast majority of us the imminence of death is much greater for us than the imminence of His Return. As always Abide in Him.
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