Has the prophet of God failed in his warning concerning perhaps our greatest sin today before God?
Today in America and across the world, even as it was in Israel when their children were being sacrificed to Molech, there is a slaughter brought on by a selfishness and a lack of discernment.
The man of God lacks discernment concerning God’s word, consequently the woman lacks knowledge concerning this sin.
To abort a pregnancy is to take a life, and in so doing to prevent that life from having the opportunity to walk with God. Today pastors teach that an aborted fetus is taken to be with the Lord. If that truly were the case there could be little fault before God. Because 90% of all those who are today aborted would never have found God’s salvation once born into this world. In fact considering the teaching from the pulpits today, it can be rationalized that because one choses to abort they have saved their child from a life of trials and tribulations. But is this the teaching of scripture? And if not has false teaching taken the sting out of the sin of abortion.
There is a failure to teach the word of God on this subject. God not man establishes His rules. The man of God is called to teach or preach what God has said in His word. Not what is tickling to the ear. Listen:
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.
1 Corinthians 7:14 NASB
Paul has clearly stated here that one believing parent separates the child unto the Lord. An unborn child with no believing parent is unclean and is not set apart before God. To abort that Child is equal to if not worse than throwing him or her in the fires of Molech once born.
But today’s prophet will say: surely God will not treat the soul of this innocent unborn according to this word. How can one believe such a thing. But this same prophet will tell us that a child who dies at the age of accountability without Christ will spend a conscious eternity in Hell. Is this God’s plan? Is God just? Is this God’s word?
Then the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— therefore the Lord God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life.
Genesis 3:22-24 NASB
God never intended for man apart from Christ to live forever in his sin. Man is mortal. Immortality is only given as God’s gift to man in Christ. Hell was created for Satan and His angels. It is not that He will not avenge Himself of His enemies:
“ Rejoice, O nations, with His people; For He will avenge the blood of His servants, And will render vengeance on His adversaries, And will atone for His land and His people.”
Deuteronomy 32:43 NASB
“ He keeps the feet of His godly ones, But the wicked ones are silenced in darkness; For not by might shall a man prevail. “ Those who contend with the Lord will be shattered; Against them He will thunder in the heavens, The Lord will judge the ends of the earth; And He will give strength to His king, And will exalt the horn of His anointed.”
1 Samuel 2:9-10 NASB
Even though Hell was not created for man, and in fact was not even mentioned as part of the Genesis creation still one judged for his sins must pay for his own sin. Hell was actually created for Satan and his angels:
41 “Then He will also say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, accursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels;
Matthew 25:41 NASB
Man who rejects the Creator who came and died for his sin will be judged. Only if God judges him worthy of eternity in hell will he spend eternity there, otherwise hell is a place of destruction. A fetus, a baby, a life in the womb who has never had the opportunity of choice will not be judged by the just creator for eternity or for any judgment in Hell as are the men of this world for their evil acts. A baby who has never escaped the womb has never seen God’s creation by which He judges man outside of the hearing of the gospel (Romans chapter 1).
But neither will this fetus who has no saved parent be taken to the Lord. The woman therefore who aborts her baby has greatly grieved God. His blessing of life has been spurned. This one who God has created with an opportunity to love and serve Him has been refused that opportunity by this one’s own mother.
This is why the guilt syndrome of a mother is so prevalent, because she has given no credence to God’s laws and exercising her own will aborts her child.
In fact a mother who has no conscience for this sin will not even be given a chance for repentance.
But for the mother who grieves over what she has done to her own child, there is hope. In fact there is hope not just for her but for her child as well should she repent and turn from her love of the world to a love for her God, who loves her so, and who gave His only Son for her sins. If she believes she and her child may be sanctified and made holy by her belief.
and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” They said, “ Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
Acts 16:30-31 NASB
Once you confess that you have sinned and believe in Jesus payment for those sins then God not only forgives but He casts those sins as far away as the East is from the west in His creation.
To preach and teach that the fetus always goes to be with the Lord is not in keeping with the teaching of scripture, and to mislead women in this regard is to contribute to the abortion problem.
There is also a price to be paid for misleading the sheep.
I want to incorporate a question asked by a fellow blogger and my answer in the comments section.
True word. In order to justify abortion people are told that the foetus is a lump of flesh and without life. But life is in the blood. May God have mercy on us.
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Amen
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Would you consider abortion the same as miscarriage?
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Crissy, obviously abortion is an act of the will, and thus is sin unless the decision is to save the mother, and then it becomes a decision of conscience between the family and God. But yes as to the fetus, the child in the womb is set apart by the believing parent, and the miscarried fetus of the believer will be with the Lord. Paul says in first Corinthians 15 that immortality is a gift to the believer. The only way an unbeliever earns it is to be so evil so as to be judged worthy of eternal life in Hell. Scripture states that this is the Judgment for those who worship the beast. Hope this helps. If you know someone who has miscarried lead them to the Lord if they are grieved over their unborn and they will spend eternity with their precious child.
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Thank you Jerry. Appreciate your response. Blessings
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Thanks for the comments Crissy.
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There are two parts of this article that concern me Jerry.
Here are the segments…
“In fact a mother who has no conscience for this sin will not be given a chance for repentance.”
“But neither will this fetus who has no saved parent be taken to the Lord.”
Are you implying that both of these people are doomed without remedy?
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1 Timothy 2.4-6 is a beautiful section of scripture that deals with this in general.
“Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.”
I appreciate your zeal for truth my friend, and if you have been reading the commentaries of calvinists,
Then please get away from calvinism buddy if that’s what you have been dabbling in.
Your friend,
Lee
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I’m not Calvinist, although predestination is definitely presented in scripture and must be balanced with free will. From that standpoint neither am I totally in the Armenian camp. God is sovereign and He knows the end from the beginning, He offers salvation to all, but forces it on no one. Some however having been allowed to to glimpse truth would claim that there is than no other choice but to believe. One would be a fool not to. But I have seen such fools who have seen and then proceed to fall away. The mother who never sees and who has aborted a life given by God as a gift has robbed that child ( fetus) of life, and of its opportunity to perhaps find salvation. But on the other hand God will not send that fetus to hell.
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I hear ya buddy.
There’s a lot we are continuing to learn.
But from the wording, it appeared that you were saying that neither of those people would go to heaven.
Are you saying that?
That neither of those people could go to heaven?
I’ll just tell you where I am, so you can know where I’m coming from.
I believe that every person, (born or unborn) goes to heaven who couldn’t grasp the offer of salvation. Be they mentally impaired, or too young to understand.
And I believe that salvation is equally available to everyone, including the most wicked people.
However I do believe that some people can’t be saved. Not because of predestination, but because they have genuinely understood the gospel, but have repeatedly, and finally, rejected Jesus, and are then given over to reprobation.
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You state: “I believe that every person, (born or unborn) goes to heaven who couldn’t grasp the offer of salvation. Be they mentally impaired, or too young to understand.”
I’m not sure that you couldn’t be correct about this thinking but these innocent ones could also might fall under the parent for sanctification according to Paul’s teaching. If so not all would be protected. Only those born to at least one Believing parent.
You also state
“And I believe that salvation is equally available to everyone, including the most wicked people.” I totally agree but it must be accepted as in believing in Jesus work of redemption. I think that that is what you are saying.
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Hi Jerry, thank you for your kind dialogue with me brother.
This is a good exercise in friends visiting on a subject.
I’ll try to state with better-clarity what I believe. (I often don’t communicate-well what I’m trying to say). So here it goes…
I don’t believe that any infant is doomed from the womb (under any circumstances).
I have read in Calvin’s institutes where he wrote that some people are “doomed from the womb,” but I reject that. God in His infinite love and grace would never condemn someone who never had the ability to understand & respond to His offer of salvation.
And I believe that everyone who goes to heaven must be individually born again by grace through faith in the risen Lord Jesus Christ. (I don’t believe in universalism, or someone going to heaven because they’re related to a Christian).
I don’t have all of the answers to everything buddy, but that’s what I believe.
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Understood Lee, thanks.
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If Paul’s words are meant to teach a child’s separation unto God (sanctification) as opposed to the child’s uncleanness before the Lord based on the mother’s belief or lack thereof, then I see no other way to interpret this passage for the fetus, than for the mother to be saved at some point. If the mother is never brought to the fear of God as we discussed in your article, then she will not have an opportunity for salvation. One who takes a life without regretting it cannot be considered humble and contrite by our Lord. And it is the humble and contrite that the Lord seeks. Does this make sense?
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I believe that I should step back and not comment on this further.
As I feel as though I’m entering a topic that I’m not qualified to speak on.
I’ll just leave my thoughts as this…
All glory to the risen Lord Jesus Christ.
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No problem thanks for your comment. Appreciate you brother.
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Lee, I want to make one more stab at this with you from perhaps a different approach. Your original question on your blog contained the imputing of original sin.
So what does that mean? I have to see that in the same light as righteousness being imputed at our rebirth. We did nothing to deserve either at the time of our birth and our rebirth. We just were first sinners by nature. Remember the world changed when sin entered. Man no longer was allowed in the perfect world. So at conception man is a sinner, but no one wants to consider Paul’s understanding of the grace given the child because his mother or father are believers. Actually we both are saying the same thing concerning the child of lost parents God will not send that child to hell, He is just, but neither can He give them salvation, because they have not accepted that offer and the child is a sinner by imputation just as we are righteous by imputation. Don’t know if that helps or not but this is what I think scripture requires. And again I may be wrong, but I’d rather be wrong while standing on Scripture, because when doing so I am standing on Jesus who is the word.
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Lee wrote on his blog in answer to me
Hi Jerry,
Allow me to thank you for sharing your valuable time with me in expressing your thoughts about my question.
I don’t know if you read one of the earliest comments on this post, but one of the readers provided scripture that I believe solved my dilemma.
The verses were these:
Matthew 18:3,4 King James Version (KJV)
3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 19:13,14 King James Version (KJV)
13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them.
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.
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~ There we see Jesus teaching that the kingdom of heaven is of such as little children ~
I just wanted you to know that my question had been satisfactorily scripturally answered.
Adam certainly infected all of humanity with sin, but everyone who goes to hell, goes there for their own sin. And babies have committed no sin.
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John 8:24 King James Version (KJV)
24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
Notice that: “ye shall die in “your” sins.” Jesus didn’t say: ye shall die in Adam’s sins.
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I’m sharing this with you in kindness Jerry.
And my overall hope in our dialog is for you to come to truly rest in the finished work of Christ.
You have no idea what you’re currently missing out on buddy.
And thank you again for your kind interaction with me.
All glory to the risen Lord Jesus Christ!
And no glory to us whatsoever!
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Lee the question that I still have for us is — how do we as a church argue against abortion when we basically turn God into The one accepting the sacrifices made to Moloch, which He God abhors. Additionally can we just ignore Paul’s teaching, without giving a reason why we would be doing it.
The liberals have used the argument that a loving God will not send anyone to hell. So have we in some ways done the same?let’s consider O.T. Scripture including both the flood and Sodom.
Which scripture argument that we are considering before us do they support?
First In Noah’s flood:
Genesis 6:17 And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. (KJV)
Then Sodom:
Genesis 18:28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it. (KJV)
We know the rest of the discussion between God and Abraham. So we now need to ask: were there not even six children in Sodom belonging to the unrighteous, but who God would need to consider righteous in order to take to heaven? And if these children of the city were considered righteous the city would have remained. Because given given the theory before us there must not be even six children in all of Sodom and Gomorrah. Four were found in lot’s family and only six more were needed. If you are correct there were not even six children in Sodom and Gomorrah.
And then we hear God instruct:
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. (KJV)
Now we are at a point where we either say that we do not accept what God has instructed in scripture, and confirmed to us through Paul, or we accept it though we don’t fully understand it, knowing that God’s word is true and that He is the Just and righteous Judge.
Again I will say that I could be wrong, but what we believe must be based on the Scripture as a whole and not just a cherry picked version of it. What these scriptures teach does not nullify Jesus’ statement concerning our becoming as little children in our faith in order to enter into the kingdom of heaven. For their faith in whatever they are taught normally is unwavering. This seems to be Jesus’ point. Train up a child. The children of evil are not trained up in the way in which they should go. True some still do get saved but most do not.
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