The materials I examine in this article are again taken mostly from:
More today on Tribulation Rising. The scripture under discussion in this piece is Revelation 6, and the opening of the seals. Here Tribulation Rising say’s:
Revelation 6:16-17 is very revealing:
“And said to the mountains and rocks, fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne, and from the (Orge wrath) of THE LAMB: For the great day of his wrath Is come; and who shall be able to stand?”
Did you catch that? The first 42 months are the wrath of the Lamb. The second 42 months are the wrath of God.
Yes, I got that, but did you get it. Ask yourself just how these men who are now running for the mountains and from the presence of the Lamb, have come to understand all of this in the first several days, of the first 42 months. This is just after the church is Raptured and now supposedly sits there watching Jesus open the seals. In fact, while your at it ask yourself why the church in heaven, just having been Raptured, did not know that Jesus was the only one who could open these seals? Kendrick you knew this even before you added it, or at least you now know it, but when you get to heaven before Gods throne you just will forget it will you not?
In fact, it seems much more reasonable to believe, as I had written in the book, for those of you who have read it, that these twenty four elders actually represent themselves as they were at the very time John (not the church) was called up into heaven back around 90 AD. Jesus had taken the remnant of the twelve tribes to heaven at His ascension. The twelve elders from Israel were there, as were the twelve apostles who had died. This would have excluded John himself, but included Paul and Mathias. Each having already passed from earth in death. John was called there as an observer, he was not on a throne.
The seals, many believe to represent the entire span of history during the age of mankind. There in those seals was represented history from the time of Satan’s being cast down to earth as his punishment in the first seal to the last seal revealing The Lamb (Messiah) taking up His reign. And these men in these verses 16-17, who had failed to repent during Great Tribulation will see Him present (as the verse says) there in the Sky, as His revealing takes place for battle against Armageddon’s soldiers, then they turn and run for the mountains calling for the rocks to fall on them to hide them from His presence. At this same time the Antichrist marshals his armies to turn to do battle with the armies from heaven.
It is made clear during the outpouring of the bowls of wrath, that repentance will now cease as Armageddon ensues. Yet, one of Tribulation Rising’s favorite pre-Trib Rapture sites has this to say:
“A plain sense reading of the Book of Revelation tells us that the time of God’s Wrath begins with the seal judgments (Rev. 6:16-17) and ends with the Bowl judgments (Rev. 15:1). The fact that mid-trib and pre-wrath believers don’t accept that means they haven’t accepted God’s word as written.”
The facts are in this scene in full view of men from the earth. And I might add that these should also be in full view of the pre-Trib teachers. They are the Lamb of God and His Fathers throne as a presence to those seeing Him. This is viewed also in Rev. 11:15; 19:11-19 & 16:14-15 after the pouring out of the sixth bowl. These men running from The Lamb and His wrath are about to be destroyed, not inflicted with Tribulation. There is no evidence that at any time during the Tribulation will men run and hide from the Messiah or the Lamb. During Tribulation they will seek death and not be able to find it. They certainly know nothing of His Orge wrath which we are promised to escape, not until at the very end of Tribulation when it is poured out. And this wrath spoken of here is Orge wrath. This is taking place in conjunction with the last two bowls of wrath.
Now I want you to ask yourself, since these men somehow know that the Great day of His wrath has come, and that no man will be able to stand before it, just how is this knowledge possible? And what does it mean that no man will be able to stand, when in fact they do stand even throughout the Tribulation until He returns?
Remember Paul had said: While they are saying, “Peace and security,” then destruction will come upon them suddenly like birth pangs upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
1 Thessalonians 5:3
Paul is not talking about the beginning of Tribulation here; he is talking about Jesus return to tread the wine press of God’s wrath.
The suddenness of Christ’s appearing is what brings this running and hiding in the rocks because there is no escape from this wrath at the presence of the Lamb at the time of the outpouring of His Orge wrath. Prior to this during Tribulation there has been incident after incident of escape from God’s punitive judgments and they would not repent. His Thumos anger is also at times translated Wrath, but when His “Orge” comes there will be no escape and we will be gone in the Rapture following the First resurrection. (Also see my post titled: Messiah Stains His Garments: Isaiah 63, Sept 25,2017.)
This wrath that is coming at the appearing of the Lamb and at His presence is wrath that every man has been promised to experience, who is not in Christ. Listen:
among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of (“Orge”wrath), like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ— by grace you have been saved—
Ephesians 2:3-5 ESV
This wrath spoken of in this verse is Orge wrath, and is the same wrath that we are promised to escape. May you be found in Him, overcomers at His appearing.
You may ask — why have you posted this on your site without first posting it on theirs. If you read the introduction to Tribulation Rising’s site you will be told that your post or your opinion will not be placed or considered on their site until you have proven that you have done your time as they have in study. I’m proving here what they insist I prove and then I will invite them here to view what I have written.
Our prayer should be for them and for us all, that one day soon we who name the name above all names Christ Jesus our Lord, should all come to full knowledge of God’s truth. It now seems as we approach the Tribulation that this coming event on God’s colander is His vehicle to bring this unity about. Even So, come quickly Lord Jesus.