If you deny Me
Matthew 10:33 But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven.
Then in Matthew 16:24-25 Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross and follow Me. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it; but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it.
We know that Salvation was provided to us as a free gift. Jesus paid for our inheritance of eternal life with Him and the Father to rule with Him. But is there a responsibility that is being overlooked today that comes along with that gift? Let’s say that I inherited my fathers farm with 1000 head of milk cows worth 5 million dollars. This obviously is dreaming on my part, but I’ll use it for illustration. Actually the gift given us through Jesus death and resurrection is incomprehensible. But, once I get the gift free from my earthly father there are still obligations that must be met or the farm will go bust. Jesus seems to have stated certain obligations that go along with the gift of salvation (Luke 12:41-48).
At another time He stated that no king will go into battle without first determining if he is able to do battle with the opposing king. Then He adds Luke 14:33 So then, none of you can be My disciple who does not give up all his own possessions. Why would He say this if there is no cost to discipleship? And folks we are all called to discipleship.
Paul tells us that we are to flee immorality because we are not our own we are bought with a price. 1Cor. 6:18-20.
In 2 Timothy 2:11-14 Paul states: It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him; If we endure, we will also reign with Him; If we deny Him, He also will deny us; If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself. Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.
He states each of these truths to Timothy and tells him that they are settled, there is to be no argument over them lest in so doing the hearer is ruined. Does that mean that we should not discuss them at all as seems to be the case in our day? Think with me if you would when was the last time, if ever, you have heard a message on these verses. Perhaps it is because these verses are so clear that nothing more needs to be said about them, but still Paul tells Timothy — “remind them of these things”.
Within these things there is both comfort and warning. Yet some become so uncomfortable concerning verses like these so as to proclaim the Scriptures to be in error. They refute the inerrancy of the Word. But can we who believe fully in the Scripture’s inerrancy also be guilty of misapplying Scriptures like these within our doctrine? In fact this is often why we have denominations, because certain scriptures are not considered applicable to our brand of Christianity. Many today explain away what they do not understand. Much of Jesus’ teachings today are relegated to “it is Israel who either has or will fall, therefore the Church can using this mentality cherry pick Jesus teachings. We are His sheep today and no man can pluck us from His hand.
Hear what Peter has to say about Paul’s teaching:
2 Peter 3:15-16 and regard the patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you, as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
What does it mean to be untaught, and how does that relate to ones stability or instability? Today in our schools our kids are taught many things but they are often untaught in the things (the truths) that really matter, and thereby they become unstable and ill equipped for life. They can become abusers of drugs and alcohol and sex. And all because morals are not taught by anyone around them. Being untaught doesn’t mean that we have no knowledge of the subject, even though it certainly can mean that.
So, my question is this– if men distort morals within their doctrine then they must also twist scripture to there own destruction as Peter states here, is it not important to study out what Paul’s meaning is, even Peter says that he is hard to understand. But it is important to notice that those who twist these things are not ignorant of their existence. They just don’t like what is said. You cannot twist something without making a conscious effort to engage it.
Admittedly, 2 Tim 2:11-14, is pretty clear and it comes not from the lips of Jesus but from the very Apostle to the Gentiles.
Paul says: if we died with Him we shall… just how do we die with Him? And how do we know that this has happened? There are some who would tell us that to add anything to our faith is works, but Paul says: if we died — how did we die past tense? When I realized what Jesus had done for me through His death, God had right then placed the ball in my court. My reaction was immediate — lord forgive me, how could I have been so blind. My life is yours, use me for your glory. If I had not died to self by faith at that moment I could not then claim to live with Him in the future.
Then Paul’s statement becomes even more interesting, if we endure we shall also…, our endurance is not an option if we are to reign with Him. Jesus had said it and Paul here reinforces it. Jesus said those who endure to the end shall be saved.
Then we come to– If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself. What does that mean? We have already been told that if we didn’t die and we don’t endure we cannot live and reign with Him. So this Doesn’t mean that we can be faithless and live with and reign with Him? Is it not how He treated faithless Israel that is precisely what Paul is telling us here will also happen to us if we are faithless?
The “He” of course in this passage is Jesus who remains faithful, but what does He remain faithful to? I have heard it taught that it is to us (even when we are faithless) that Jesus is faithful. Would faithless not mean that someone had failed to endure in their faith. Is Jesus obligated to the unfaithful man who does not endure or the one who denies Him in these verses? Or is His obligation to His word and to those who keep it? His word tells us what He will do to those who don’t endure — is His obligation to remain true to what His Holy Spirit has warned us about here in these scriptures and elsewhere? And is that not really being faithful to the hearer even to the unfaithful hearer? If I tell you that using drugs in an abusive way even when prescribed can lead to addiction and bondage — is that not being faithful to you even if you don’t listen?
So when we see a scripture like these that warns us to remain faithful where Jesus has said basically “if you deny me I will deny you” and then we compare it to another Scripture where Jesus says “no man can pluck you out of My hand or out of the Fathers hand” how are we to reconcile these two seemingly opposite truths? Think about this when Jesus says that to be His follower we must take up our cross and follow Him daily. Who is He placing the obligation or expectation upon? Has He not paid even for this sin of being disobedient if we have failed to do what He asks? Yes, surely He has; but has He not also paid the price for every man’s sins who ever walked the face of this earth? Again YES, but without the shedding of blood their is no remission of sin. Without our dying with Him and repenting (turning away from the world and toward Him we are not following Him and there is no living and reigning with Him.
Jesus must be faithful to God (to Himself), and to His word, and to His followers who remain faithful. And we would have to say that He is faithful to all of the above including even the unfaithful should they listen and seek after Him. If we don’t say this then He cannot be God for God is no respecter of persons. If we say as some teachers want us to believe that this faithful act is only to us when we are unfaithful even to the point where we deny Him; then we are saying that Jesus is a liar when He says that “He well deny us to the Father if we deny Him. Or when He says that only those who endure to the end will be saved. Do these sins of faithlessness then represent disbelief, and was it not disbelief that caused a portion of Israel to be cut off from the Olive tree to make room for our ingrafting?
Some would imply that if these things be true then He is not being faithful to us. Not so. Why?– because He has told us these things before hand and He has allowed us the choice to follow Him after considering the cost of going our own way, versus turning about and following Him. There is a cost either way. Men who proclaim that repentance is not a part of salvation for us are blind guides. Men who claim that once we are saved we cannot deny Him or we cannot help but endure are leading others astray, because Paul says here “if we” he includes even himself as a potential denier. Make up your mind who you will serve, as for me and my house we will serve the Lord.
We are already entering a period of history unlike any that we have seen before, certainly not in our lifetime. These verses tell us how we must respond as Christians who love Jesus and intend to endure. If you have read my book you will know that what I am telling you here is true to Scripture. Men given over to a reprobate mind are not going to love you and me even though we should still love them; we are already seeing these things in what we call Christian America. It’s been true in other parts of the world for sometime. Jesus did not mince words when He said: Matthew 5:11-12 NASB “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Some who heard these words in that day obeyed them, many did not. Today is our chance to stand for truth, or not. What will you do?
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