This will likely be my last post for the month of July as I’m going north to visit family in about three states.

Bibleguy, was a blogger from my past. He and I corresponded for a while. His emphasis was on convincing me that I was wrong in my post- Trib thinking. I get a report from WordPress giving me the articles that are being read currently. Their way of showing me what people are interested in I suppose. This one was on the radar, so I think you might get something from it.

To: Bibleguy: So if you insist on trying to convince me that I’m wrong with your posts on the Rapture, then I feel the need and the obligation to answer. Just to start a discussion, not an argument. I will restate a couple of your statements and then address them. You State:
The doctrine (of the Rapture) is to be a comforting one 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18
Is it not possible that I as a post-Trib believer would be comforted knowing that Jesus is coming back to resurrect my dead loved ones and myself whether I be dead or alive at that time. This fact does not change for one who knows based on Scripture that he may suffer Tribulation before Christ returns. Secondly, you state:
“The Tribulation is the outpouring of the wrath of the Lamb and God has not appointed us to wrath 1 Thessalonians 5:9-11”
The Tribulation is not the hour of the outpouring of God’s (Orge) Wrath. You can read about that in my post on this subject. (https://raptureonline.blog/2021/11/12/is-wrath-orge-associated-with-hell-and-the-day-of-wrath-or-with-the-tribulation/)

Also, you say, and I agree with what you state here in what I’m about to quote you on, because in the ancient Jewish wedding the wedding was at the home of the bride. So this is your quote:
“Following the wedding ceremony, the bridegroom would take his bride to his father”s house,”. This wedding ceremony, of which you speak, taking place at the brides house places the wedding of Messiah to His bride on the earth not in heaven. We actually don’t see the brides house in Scripture until after we have reigned on earth for 1000 years in Revelation. The bride is said to have made herself ready for this marriage at the end of Tribulation in Rev.19. It doesn’t tell us where she is in that passage, probably because the dead in Christ are in heaven, and those still alive must await the first resurrection of those dead, but by this time they would be ready. Paul actually makes this point clear in 1 Thessalonians 4. The Rapture cannot occur according to that passage until after all the dead in Christ are raised in the resurrection of those who are “in Christ”. The first resurrection which is for the dead in Christ, not the dead outside of Christ, includes the Tribulation dead who are promised to reign with Christ in Rev 20. That makes them part of the bride doesn’t it?
Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and “reigned with Christ for a thousand years”.
Revelation 20:4 NASB
So far as we can tell from scripture the only people promised this reign with Christ would be included in the bride. So are they one with the bride?
If the bride has made herself ready following Tribulation as it states in Rev 19, then it certainly seems that this is the case.
One other point you make needs further explanation: “Jesus told us that we would be raptured before the Tribulation Luke 21:36

How are we worthy? One way: We are worthy because of what Jesus did for us on the Cross of Calvary.”
Here is the passage stated to prove what you say:
36 But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.” Luke 21:36
The only point that I would make concerning this verse and your commentary about it, is this: you are correct we in Christ are worthy for that reason only: that we are in Christ. We don’t need to pray to be Raptured. The Rapture is an automatic on God’s timing. But the verse says: “pray that you be worthy”. The pre Trib Rapture would be this automatic occurrence for all who are “in Christ”. The only reason for anyone to need to pray to escape anything is if we are in danger of having to face that particular thing (or danger). If we are not present for Tribulations danger, as in having already been raptured, then there would be no need to pray to escape. The Rapture itself if pre-Trib would be the automatic escape (certainly not needing prayer). We cannot pray the Rapture’s coming for an escape unless we find ourselves needing an escape.
These facts all point to a post trib Rapture. But there are many many more Scriptural reasons on my site and in my book for post-Trib to be the timing of the Rapture. In fact I believe that Scripture adequately answers every one of your points, those which you state here and the others I’ve seen raised as well.
One other point I’d like you to consider based on your closing. Was Peter any less a Christian or was He longing for the coming of Jesus any less because of his knowing that he must die a cruel death before he would see Jesus? He knew what would happen to him because Jesus the word of God had told him, we only know what we know for the very same reason (the word of God’s teaching), and in my mind expecting Tribulation before He comes, based on what we know, doesn’t make us any less a Christian than one who thinks that he will see Jesus before he suffers Tribulation and or death. In fact, it is well known by now that most believers have suffered death and will not need to pray to escape the dangers of Tribulation. But for those of us seeing the handwriting on the wall, should we pray to be raptured? Would not a prayer to escape these things while helping others to find Jesus be a better prayer?
Lord bless you brother, I love you in Christ Jesus.