I today received a note from a good friend whom I love. He sent me a link which is attached at the bottom of this post along with his comment.
My reply follows:
It’s nothing new. The woke German government is going to block non vaccinated folks from socializing and exercising their freedom.
In The Good Old USofA, there will be no problem at all, with this law, for in a woke society all one has to do is identify as a pregnant woman. After all men in women’s bathrooms? I’m sure you as a Democrat now support all of this.
I hope I’m being facetious here, but truthfully (Name deleted) I’m just not sure exactly where you stand anymore. Is it for science and reason, and God’s word, or is it really for what most in the Democratic Party stand for? Have you totally forgotten that the Communists had in the past vowed to bury us, and to do it from within. You apparently thought it was justified to drag Trump and his lawyers and team through the Russian Collusion theory, which now is proven conspiracy, but you won’t even give a second thought to the possibility that the Chinese have actually accomplished with Biden, what the Russians were accused of doing with Trump.
Biden has a cabinet and advisor group full of Muslim brotherhood and their sympathizers, who have just handed over more Military equipment and a US Air base to our enemy, who happens to be a neighbor of China and who knows what evil is going to come of that.
And additionally they have brought thousands of Muslim immigrants into this country who are undocumented, and I guess you see no harm in any of this?
You disregard any evidence presented, by even good citizens who have served America well in the past in leadership in America, to the fact that China was involved with the release of this virus, and then were involved with hacking our election machines. You ignore the fact that there is strong evidence that Arizona, Ga, Penn, and Michigan and other elections were tampered with, by people inside this country and by China, and others.
You wave off evidence because it has not been accepted by the courts for trial, even though it has been presented to State legislatures and has led to ongoing investigations. You ignore the resistance by the Democratic controlled AG’s office to any such investigations by these state legislatures. You ignore the resistance by Democrats of the states to provide for legislation to eliminate cheating in elections.
Just exactly where your head is is a puzzle to me. I knew that you hated Trump, but I would never have thought that you hated the constitutionality of our laws, and the rule of those laws which are in keeping with the constitution.
I never thought that you would buy into a party which stands against science, while all the while claiming to be led by the science. 32 genders in the human race, prove that one if you can, yet our enforcing of our laws embrace it. Human caused Global climate change, while running around in private Jets, owning multiply mansions. Embracing open borders causing more human migration and pollution; Causing more drug and sex trafficking.
And then there is freedom. You are free to murder a child in the womb, and now even after delivery, but not free to choose a vaccine that is known to kill potentially as many as the virus it is claimed to eradicate. A vaccine that does not stop the virus, a vaccine that some scientists and immunology experts highly question as to their overall long term impact, because they were rushed to market, a vaccine for which the manufacturers are growing increasingly wealthy, and yet have no legal liability. A CDC run by Drs and scientists many of whom have never treated a patient, or actually practiced medicine. A vaccine that has no more efficacy that the treatments used against viruses.
And this you are willing to yield up your freedom to travel, to eat out, to enter certain public arenas for, when you are not even sick with anything. Fear is driving the population in this country. It is controlling the masses. And it is over a virus that kills far fewer people than other diseases, and which can be much better controlled with proper medication if allowed. But which a non elected government funded agency does not want to be treated, because it’s members are allowed to get rich off of pattens and vaccines.
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On Aug 29, 2021, at 7:19 AM, Name delegated, but not for the protection of the innocent, @gmail.com> wrote:
The idea seems to be spreading.
Here is an interesting perspective on how to address the problem of people who won’t get vaccinated.
WOW!! I should have learned my lesson from previous experience and decided not to forward the links about pushback against vaccine refusers. I will attempt to provide a dispassionate (defined as not influenced by strong emotion, and so able to be rational and impartial) evaluation of your response. You start by stating that I am a “good friend whom you love.” I must admit that your response felt–not loving–but angry, hateful and disrespectful in addition to being filled with misinformation, contradictions, and distasteful stereotypes. I’ll elaborate on some of the most egregious of those but in the interest of brevity, I’ll avoid a complete litany of the errors.
You claim you don’t know what I stand for anymore, in spite of the fact that we’ve corresponded on a variety of issues, including COVID and vaccines, for almost two years. I think I have clearly and consistently articulated my views over that timeframe. If you don’t know where I stand, you haven’t digested, or have forgotten, what I’ve written. You contrast science, reason, and God’s word to “what most in the Democratic Party stand for,” presuming that most Democrats don’t embrace science, reason, or Christianity. While I’ve been a lifelong Republican, I grew more and more disenchanted with the party during the Trump presidency. I see people of both parties that respect science, reason, and Christian ethics. This is the first of several irrational stereotypes.
You have repeatedly accused me of hating Donald Trump. In fact, I don’t hate him and have repeatedly told you that. I have very little respect for him, primarily because of his (well documented) lies, character flaws, and incompetence as President–especially in mishandling the COVID pandemic. I told you several times that I thought the first impeachment of Trump was ill advised and would damage the Democratic party. Contrary to what you stated, he was not exonerated by the Mueller investigation (read the report, not Bill Barr’s “summary”) and the trial in the Senate was a political verdict that was completely predictable and hardly objective.
You claim that the Biden “cabinet and advisor group is full of Muslim brotherhood and their sympathizers.” I challenge you to name a single Muslim in the cabinet or white house staff, much less enough of them to constitute that group being “full of” such people. You claim, without evidence, that thousands of undocumented Muslim immigrants have been admitted to the US. All of those claims are simply gross misstatements and distasteful stereotypes. I guess you would abandon the Afghans who worked with us over the last 20 years to fight the Taliban, even when they get proper documentation from the State Department.
One of the worst examples of hypocrisy relates to the vaccine deniers claiming individual liberty. They have even co-opted the slogan of abortion rights protesters: “My body, my choice.” They have no problem claiming their personal rights while denying women the right to make the choice to get an abortion. Don’t misunderstand me, I abhor abortion. Outlawing abortion is not as effective as educating women about the risks of unprotected sex, providing protective measures, and expanding options for women with unwanted pregnancies—adoption and help for single mothers who struggle to support themselves. You call abortion “murdering a child in the womb” and yet condone anti-vaxxers, who contribute to the death of thousands more people by spreading COVID and prolonging the pandemic, which contributes to more economic damage and mental health problems.
I’ll avoid commenting on your slurs (and unfair stereotypes) about the CDC, companies who developed the vaccines, and public health experts. What is inexplicable to me is how you can ignore the data on the efficacy of the vaccines, the clear correlation between infections, hospitalizations, and deaths and vaccination rates throughout the country. You advocate treatments for COVID such as ivermectin and HCQ. You embrace anecdotal “evidence” of the benefits of unproven therapies, even when scientific studies and the advice of FDA and the CDC not to use them, but ignore the proven vaccine approval process that has resulted in fully approving the Pfizer vaccine, which is likely be given to vaccines from Moderna and J&J soon.
I’m a pragmatist. The cost of vaccinating someone is about $35 per dose. The cost of therapies is much higher—$2,000 or more per dose for monoclonal antibodies for example. I completely support the development of effective therapies to treat COVID patients. After surviving two bouts of throat cancer, I am thankful that there are effective treatments for cancer patients. The cost of my cancer treatments has been several hundred thousand dollars. But I’m very much aware that prevention is not only less expensive than treatment but allows us avoid serious side effects of treatment. In my case, I completely lost my sense of taste and smell, am unable to eat solid food, and cannot speak naturally after having a laryngectomy. My cancer could have been prevented by the vaccine for HPV, which is now available, but too late for me.
If there were as many antivaxxers in previous years as there are now, how many more people would have died from or been permanently damaged by polio, tetanus, influenza, Hepatitis, rubella, Hib, measles, Whooping cough, pneumococcal disease, mumps, chickenpox, diphtheria, etc.
I’ll also ignore your falsehoods about the 2020 election. It’s really beyond the scope of our present discussion about COVID and vaccines. We have argued about the election ad nauseam and I don’t care to rehash that here. We do have a friendly wager over that and I hope, unlike Mike Lindell, you don’t try to move the goalposts when you fail to provide indisputable evidence recognized in court decisions. It is interesting to me that the defendants in the Dominion defamation lawsuits are trying to have the cases dismissed (for a variety of reasons) rather than argue the merits of their election fraud claims in court.
Finally, I’ll comment on the rights of private businesses and local agencies to impose conditions on the use of their services, such as restaurants requiring patrons to be vaccinated in order to dine in their establishment. We’ve long recognized the right of businesses to enforce “no shirt, no shoes, no service” requirements, force diners to wear a jacket and tie, refuse to accept credit cards, or any number of less consequential restrictions. Businesses are certainly within their rights to limit their services to only vaccinated customers in order to protect the health of their employees as well as other customers. The “free market” economy (yes, a traditional conservative concept) will sort out whether the public will patronize them. Restaurants who have surveyed their customers have found overwhelming support for those restrictions. Likewise, companies such as Delta have the right to impose a higher health insurance premiums on employees who fail to get vaccinated.
The same can be said for school boards and municipalities. Schools have long required a whole host of vaccinations for students. I’m certainly glad we have building codes and laws to protect us from shoddy construction, reckless drivers, vandalism, arson, and many other potential risks to our health and safety. We accept restrictions on our individual liberties for all kinds of desirable outcomes. Our freedom comes with responsibilities and there are consequences to the actions we take—or refuse to take.
The readers of your blog can decide for themselves what to believe and I’m sure some of them, but maybe not all, fully embrace your views. Thanks for allowing me to present a dissenting view.
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My reply will be first to state that I’m not at all mad or angry with you Bob. I’m disappointed in myself for refusing to just give up on my continuous attempts to help you see the side of the argument that seems so obvious to so many. I’m disappointed not angry. I’m happy that you saw fit to reply here as well as on e mail. And yes the readers will of course even as you and I have done; will make up their own minds. Thanks for engaging me, and them here.