I will begin with their quote.

“Beginning in chapter 4 the church is now present in heaven – no longer as the church, but as the bride.  (A recently posted article of mine revealed the untruth in this statement) This is further evidenced by the commencement of the Bema (Revelation 11:18) at the beginning of the mid-point of the tribulation”

The above quote is a good starting point for this section of the Tribulation Rising’s support for the pre-Trib Rapture from the Revelation. So, Revelation 11:18 is todays subject. Here i will quote the entire passage first in KJV, and then in NASB. I am going to place my comments within the NASB verse only.

And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

Revelation 11:18 KJV

Now the NASB:

11:18 And the nations were enraged, (First- why were the nation’s angry or enraged? Does not “were enraged” imply that we are now looking back on their rage? Look back at vs 17. We are told that the Lord has already taken power and is begun to reign. What does that mean? The Lord will reign in His millennial reign for 1000 years. The Scripture definitely tells us that the martyred of the Tribulation will reign with Him for 1000 years before Satan is released again and the final battle will cast Satan away and destroy death. The Day (1000 year reign) of the Lord has already begun according to this verse. This means that those martyred during the Tribulation are now resurrected and Satan is locked in chains. [see Rev. 20:2-5]. The Tribulation is over.) The Lord is now visible and present (Rev. 6:16-17) and Your wrath came (the verb “came” is aorist passive meaning simply that wrath has already happened), and the time came (All existing time before this day of judgment is now in the past. This age is over, and it is the time) for the dead to be judged (Resurrection has begun, all of the dead are slated for judgement on this same [1000 year day of the Lord {Rev. 22-12}]), and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, (the time for Jesus to judge “us” is here. This judgment day [the Day {1000 yr.} day of the Lord] has arrived) and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”(Revelation 11:18 NASB.) (When someone is destroyed, what does that conjure up in your mind? If we say the People were destroyed at Sodom, or in the Noah flood or were destroyed in the tornado, does that mean that they were still walking around and making war on Israel and on her offspring? When a man is destroyed in God’s wrath does that mean that he can walk away and continue to exist? Does not this destruction mean that He who has begun to rule has or is about to make a complete end to His and our enemies from the earth? Tribulation Rising says that this is in the middle of Tribulation? No possible way. Yet, I will agree with them on one point that they make concerning scripture —that we learn from scripture “line upon line, line upon line, here a little, there a little. Revelation is not a sequential book it fits this same Scriptural pattern as other prophetic books of the Bible. This says what it means. If this verse marks the middle of the Tribulation as Tribulation Rising suggests for Jesus to begin His reign, then the Greek nor the English language has any literal significance, and men can make it say whatever they want. For nowhere in scripture does it say that He will begin His reign until the Tribulation is over. This would be the only one place if that were true, and it would create a great conflict. The placement of a prophetic statement within time or position in a passage is not what determines its meaning. Its very words determine its meaning.

Tribulation Rising goes on:

After the seventh trumpet there are no more mysteries of God. Those that remain on the earth are now truly alone.  No aid from the Holy Spirit, no miracles of God (aside from devastating judgments) – nothing but vile darkness and death.  Those that remain are left to their own devices and for the first time in the history of mankind salvation becomes an issue of works.

With the above statement, I must mostly agree. Once Christ takes up His reign the mystery is over and mortal man is standing alone. If you place these conditions after the Appearance of Messiah in the Eastern sky, it is pretty accurate. With the seventh trumpet the Rapture will take place — not mid-Trib, but post-Trib — all mysteries are now revealed with Messiah taking dominion (Daniel 7).

Then the angel whom I saw standing on the sea and on the land lifted up his right hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever and ever, who created heaven and the things in it, and the earth and the things in it, and the sea and the things in it, that there will be delay no longer, but in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he is about to sound, then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets. Revelation 10:5-7

This passage confirms what is about to happen with the last trumpet of God bringing about Resurrection and Rapture. “Finished” no more delay, sorry but man’s reign is over. Satan’s reign is over.

So why might the Tribulation Rising message conclude that all salvation beyond what they call the mid-point of Tribulation is by works? Remember there is an actual midpoint to the Tribulation, but this is not descriptive of that time. This verse is describing the end of the age, and the beginning of the next.

We have viewed this before but to refresh you. The judgment of the sheep and the goats from the nations now exiting the Tribulation will be strictly on the basis of works. So here Tribulation Rising is right. “What you have done to the least of these my brethren”. The Sheep are judged worthy based on their works; based on their treatment of the believers, who were present in the Tribulation and who are now present at this judgment of nations with the Lord. You can read about it in Matthew 25.

Please comment on any questions that you might have concerning this or other articles.

The following is my disclaimer:

You may ask — why have you posted this on your site without first posting it on Tribulation Rising’s ? If you read the introduction to Tribulation Rising’s site you will be told that your post or your opinion will not be placed or considered on their site until you have proven that you have done your time as they have in study. I’m simply proving here what they insist I prove, because I know that they will never read my book for that proof; and then when I have completed the work here, I will invite them here to view what I have written. Most of the posts here deal with Scripture’s truths concerning the future. This is not my truth, or what was revealed to me, it is just what the scripture says that I have determined in my heart to believe as it is written.