Someone once dared me to be bold in my witness and teaching. Doing that W/O stepping on toes can be difficult. I’m ready for negative feedback on this one.

The Biggest (l) problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that there is not a mention of Jesus returning before Great Tribulation anywhere in scripture. That’s a problem but not the biggest.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that Gods’s Orge wrath is not poured out until after Tribulation when Jesus returns to earth.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that the Church happens to be an Old Testament Concept.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that the Bride is not ready for Christ’s coming until after the Tribulation in Revelation 19.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that there is no Church age taught in Scripture, but there is one new man taught by Paul. No more Jew or Gentile.

The biggest problem for pre-Trib teaching is not that we are no longer separate (outside looking in on Israel’s covenants and promises) but are now one with them the saints.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that both Jesus and Paul taught the oneness of O.T and N.T. believers in Christ.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that both Jesus and Paul taught that the day of the Lord (The day of the Rapture) would be preceded by the falling away and the revealing of the Antichrist.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that Jesus Himself states that the church would actually see Great Tribulation. You probably don’t know where that is.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that Messiah when He returns to save Israel at Petra is alone, with no church or bride presence with Him.

The Biggest problem for the pre-Trib teaching is not that the church is not mentioned in heaven in Revelation 4-19. I just through that in, because their big argument is that the church is not mentioned on earth during this time of Great Tribulation. Obviously this is really not a big problem for anyone. No word “church” in Revelation at all after chapter 3.

And their biggest problem is not that Israel is also taught in Isa. to be the bride of their Messiah and Redeemer after His return. Read chapter 53 & 54.

Before I get to what their biggest problem really is let me address the why of my seaming obsession with this topic, because I know that most of you must believe me to be obsessed. Why do I say most of you? Because a few of you have said it to others and it gets back. But Don’t worry I still love you. You must have read at least one or more of these messages in order to even think that.

So why do I do this. Is it because I have some kind of desire to be persecuted — no but perhaps I should, hmm, but that’s for another article. So why do I do it. Well, I have seen the fervent teaching of the Pre-Trib doctrine all my life. I was raised on it, and I have felt the scorn of those who thought it heretical that any one should raise a question or point out even one of the problems listed above that I have written full articles on here on this site.

But none of that is my reason. My reason is because I love the pre-Trib brethren and I love My Lord, and I love His Word, and He has taught me these things from His word. And my passion is for all of this. When I was writing the first book, I was awakened several times in the middle of the night with a scripture on my mind that I knew exactly where it must go in that book. Is that passion or is it the Lord? All I know is that after 25 years that book is still being sold over Amazon. I receive nothing from it. The publisher is out of business. In fact, the publisher of the second book is also out of business. Moral to that story — don’t publish one of my books? No, I’m not that presumptuous. Just want you to know I’m not in this for the money. I actually have gifted more books then I personally have sold. And I’ll send you one free if you honestly can’t afford to buy it. No questions ask. Just e mail me.

Now to the biggest problem for the pre-Trib teacher and his teaching. Paul makes clear that only in Christ will men, who died in Adam, be made alive in the resurrection. This is a Biblical truth that is not disputed. But he also clearly states that those who are in Christ will be resurrected before the Rapture of those who are alive and remain at His Coming. This also is a biblical truth. But what this means is totally ignored. Think about it. This has to mean that the saints from the Tribulation who are believers in Christ are either resurrected before the Rapture making the Rapture post-Trib or Paul is wrong — if these Tribulation saints are in Christ the Rapture must wait; or else they cannot according to this Scripture be in Christ. Can there be a third possibility? I don’t think so. Now follow me because this is difficult for a pre-Trib scholar to understand, but I don’t think it will be for you.

We know that those who die during the Tribulation are resurrected in the First resurrection and that they will reign with Christ for 1000 years. They are members of the first resurrection so they must be in Christ. Is it at all possible that these are not in Christ? No — listen.

For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: the firstfruits is Christ, afterward, they that are of Christ, at his coming shall rise again.

1 Corinthians 15:21-23 GNV. All versions say the same thing.

You can read this in your own translation and it will say the same thing. In fact let’s use the Darby translation. This Bible was translated by John Nelson Darby who is the acclaimed originator the pre-Trib dispensational Doctrine in the mid 1800’s. I speak of him a lot in the book I wrote.

For since by man [came] death, by man also resurrection of [those that are] dead. For as in the Adam all die, thus also in the Christ all shall be made alive. But each in his own rank: [the] first-fruits, Christ; then those that are the Christ’s at his coming.

1 Corinthians 15:21-23 DARBY

First understand that this only refers to the first resurrection because it specifies those that are the Christ’s. Those who are not the Christ’s we are told elsewhere in scripture will rise later. So this says that those who are Christ’s will rise at His Coming. Seems simple enough. So can we be assured that there are not two parts to this first resurrection and does it matter?

Let’s consider the Scriptures.

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all fall asleep, but we shall all be changed, in an instant, in [the] twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and *we* shall be changed. For this corruptible must needs put on incorruptibility, and this mortal put on immortality.

1 Corinthians 15:51-53 DARBY

This is the mystery of the Rapture as recorded in Darby’s translation of those Rapture verses recorded here. The mystery is that we shall not all die, but that some will be caught up alive, but when? — Vs 21 to 23 said at the second coming. Pre-Trib scholars argue that the second coming is different than the Rapture. Does not sound like it is taught to be different in scripture.

But let’s proceed:

for the Lord himself, with an assembling shout, with archangel’s voice and with trump of God, shall descend from heaven; and the dead in Christ shall rise first; (notice this does not say some of the dead in Christ. The understanding here is all of the dead in Christ must raise before there is a Rapture) then *we*, the living who remain, shall be caught up together with them in [the] clouds, to meet the Lord in [the] air; and thus we shall be always with [the] Lord. So encourage one another with these words.)

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 DARBY

I should just strike through the dead in Christ shall rise first, because pre-Trib dispensational Theology cannot believe this as scripture states it. The fact is that if scripture teaches this, then no Rapture can occur until all of those in Christ are raised in the First resurrection. So technically I guess we could have three parts or a hundred and three parts to the first resurrection, (I guess? Provided one can prove them in scripture), but not until we have the last man in Christ resurrected can we have anyone at all Raptured. Remember the Rapture is not taking place after a resurrection but after the resurrection of all who are Christ’s. Down to the very last one — ALL.

Now it is up to you. Do you believe it? Do you do some additional study on it? Or do you strike through it as pre-Trib theology has done? Or do you find one scripture — remember just one to convince first yourself and then me that this understanding that Paul poses should be stricken through.

What I find that pre-Trib scholars often do once someone points out that they have ignored a scripture like this one, is to see them then attempt to reinterpret it. Consider the word Apostasy in 2 Thess. This is exactly what they did. For a long time they tried to tell us that we didn’t understand the definition of the day of the Lord. That it in their words includes Tribulation. Now that they figured out the true definition they have changed the definition of Apostasy. The debates will go on until as I state in the book God uses the Tribulation as the very catalyst for believer unity in answer to Jesus’ own prayer in John 17 for that unity.

Why is this so important? Many of you tell me that the signs are there for Christ to return. If so, remember that one of those signs is the Tribulation. We are to wait and we are to watch. Are we to watch for Christ out here on top of trash mountain — I’m down here in Fla.; or are we to watch for the signs that Jesus told us were coming?

P.S. if you want to read more about the other things that are listed above that are not the biggest problems, but still are problems review my other posts. I speak to most of them on this blog. There are more than 200 articles here.

Words are powerful, use them well. Not mine, not yours, but only God’s truth matters.