I have a Christian friend who believes in Evolution, as having been God’s way of creating the Universe, as well as being His creation method for man.  I’ve known John for almost 30 years.  He is well educated, and easy to talk to.  He believes in Jesus’ sacrifice for sin and of our need for the rebirth.  He has experienced Jesus in his own rebirth. 

Not having seen John for likely the last decade, I wanted his opinion on the Documentary that I had recently shared with you. So I also shared it with him.  I wondered if John’s former position might have changed, concerning God’s method of Creation.  I had asked him therefore to comment. He in turn sent me a review of the Documentary which I had previously shared. Here is the title of his article to me, and the author of same:

The article is long and is only part 1.  In it Joel attacks mostly the tying of creationism’s position to what may seem “an obsession” with coming end time judgment.  Hear is a sample of Joel’s critique:

“But what caught my attention in this section of the movie is the same thing that caught my attention in the opening. Once again, there was a heavy dose of “End Times” talk. The movie really hits II Peter 2-3 hard. Sadly, yet not surprisingly, though, despite their emphasis on II Peter 2-3, the fact is they grossly misinterpret what is being said in those chapters.”

But here is his point concerning this: “Here’s the point: nowhere in II Peter 2 does it say that “in the last days” people are going to be denying the historicity of Genesis 6-9. And when I say “nowhere,” I mean NOWHERE.”

If you recall I had teased the watching of the program with these same verses from Peter.  I do not agree with Joel or his thinking to be correct saying, and I quote: “grossly misinterpret what is being said in those chapters.” 

Joel then turns to: “The question, though, is, ‘What is II Peter 3:3 referring to when he mentions “his coming”?’…”To get into the particulars of those verses though, goes beyond the scope of this post. But still, I would argue that just because Peter is referring to Genesis 6-9 to explain the significance of the future judgment, that does not automatically mean he is making a historical claim about Noah’s flood.”…”He is not engaging in a discussion about the historicity of the story of Noah’s flood.”

So tell me Joel or John: When we hear that the end times will be as the days of Noah; did Jesus in any way discount the Flood.  In fact, the former days of Noah without the flood would not even make a good story.  

So tell me, did Jesus mean to compare to a local flood.  Is Jesus just returning for some local Jewish event?  No, we know better:

The chapters in II Peter certainly seem to say that mankind will see, (in the days preceding any judgment of earth by fire) that men will be skeptics just as they were in Noah’s day, when they were all destroyed. 

So, what if the point being made by Peter has been missed by Joel, and what if his needed understanding is available but overlooked, as well, elsewhere from Scripture?  The scriptures are full of endtime prophecy.  And what if The Documentary’s use of Peter’s presentation of things are, in fact, true to our day?

We certainly see skeptics within not just the world but within the church today, who are skeptics of the truths taught in Scripture concerning: marriage; Genetics; the origin of race; the literal teaching of God and His Word; of the fact that Jesus is God’s Word made flesh, and that He confirms things taught literally in Scripture during His own days here on earth as well as in His seeing of these events of our own time to be true.  He even lets us know that He was present long ago.  “Before Abraham was I am”.  He would have been more than just present for the creation, as well as for the flood.  

Obviously, we will not all see things the same way on every teaching of Scripture.  But to be in the camp intellectually of the World, which is where evolutionists are (the teaching originated in the world: not in the church), so this is not a place I long to be.  And though, even I as a Liberty graduate, do not always see eye to eye with them as to what Scripture is literally teaching, especially on these end times events; still I recognize that the signs Jesus gives for the end times are, in fact, being set even now just off stage for the final scene.  Jerusalem and the events prophetically surrounding her in the Middle East are certainly in process.   Where in the process? – I certainly do not know exactly where, but Jerusalem is that cup of reeling spoken of leading to the very end that Joel does not want to consider.  And many of these prophesies are from the Old Testament. 

To make light of them and other Scriptural teaching is to give appearances of being a skeptic fulfilling both Peter and Paul’s teachings concerning last days conditions of men. Even the aspect of a falling away from the faith, during those days is now in play.  And denying truth is a real problem today, even within the Church.  If John wants to see Evolution as God’s means of creation then at least he can see that half of the Church denies his view.  So even he should think that the falling away from truth (His truth) is leading us to Scriptures prophesied end.  Half the church is falling from God’s truth (just on this subject), no matter which truth you hold to.  The half of the church that actually sees and acknowledges what is truly happening would seem to be the ones following the Biblical truths.   

Certainly faith is required by either camp to believe what they do, but evolutionists rely on the worlds theory for truth whereas the creationists rely on God’s literal word for truth. 

The Bible says: “faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God” but not the word of man. I’ll stake my theology (and my faith) on literal scripture, although I may not know how every piece of the puzzle fits, but much more of it is coming into view.  Even so, I’ll do this always, certainly before I will place my faith on what the world says, and even though their view may be made, for a little while, to make sense.  The Holy Spirit is given us for discernment; it comes from His instruction; His correction. I cannot see where Joel argues against any of the actual facts claimed and presented in the documentary.  He makes fun of the use of the term “Kinds” and kinda of the belief in Noah’s flood itself; in the use of the animal groups placed in the Ark. but in no wise refutes what is claimed there. 

Science is discovery. There is no proof of evolution in the fossil record. The various stages of man’s evolution have long since been debunked, or at least brought into question. Again I choose God’s word on which to place my faith. Facts are unfortunately, too often, manipulated by man. God always tell us the truth.