Godawa also, makes a point that “Daniel’s 70 weeks is not mentioned in Revelation”. This needs to be considered, of course.

Most everyone agrees that these are 70 prophetic weeks of years given to Daniel; even Godawa will agree. So that you will understand that I’m not totally opposed to the thinking on the 70 AD fulfillment of Daniel’s 70 weeks, let me introduce you to David Lurie.

Lurie is a Messianic Jewish author, who I encountered years ago. He states that the reason that these weeks are broken up into different sections, 7 weeks, and 62 weeks = 69 total; and then 1 week, is that they likely represent different numbers of years which must be equally divisible by 7 in order to fulfill the meaning in the Hebrew. So Lurie himself sees the 7 week period, as equaling 2X7 weeks or 14 weeks of years, and the 70th week as also a multiply of 7. He believes that Cyrus’ prophecy was the correct beginning for the counting of these years, and that the Birth of Christ in 6BC was the focus of the prophecy (the coming of an anointed one the Messiah). People were looking for this Messiah when He arrived, or was born.

◦ Lurie proposed an interesting version of what might be believed concerning 70 AD. He saw the 70th week as continuing past the birth of Messiah and lasting until Bar Kachba a false messiah was accepted by Israel causing them to be dispersed throughout the nations of the earth. This all took place accounting for what was a 140 year week (or 20) 7’s, with the destruction of the Temple (the cessation of the sacrifice) occurring in the center of the week. Since Jesus was not officially rejected until the end of this week, Lurie concluded that the week would again be offered at the end of the age when Jesus would be then accepted by Israel leading to His return.

Back to the question Godawa raises: is Daniel’s prophecy spoken of in The Revelation?

Why might we think it to be? Listen:

Daniel 12:4 “But as for you, Daniel, conceal these words and seal up the book until the end of time; many will go back and forth, and knowledge will increase.” (NASB1995)

This message to Daniel should cause one to conclude that this entire prophetic book of Daniel would be for the end times (no matter when they would come), why would it not be — based upon this verse? So would positions taken concerning this prophecy not be meaningless until the end of time is at least somewhere within view?

But it seems that this endtime has a specific significance that would trigger our understanding and that any argument otherwise we would need to at least discount. So, what does this message really mean?

Certainly, knowledge and travel are at the heart of understanding this prophecy.

What is the implication of men running to and fro, or back and forth, Vs what would have been happening in Daniel’s day?

And what is the implication of knowledge increasing, then Vs at this prophesied end of time? Had the increase of knowledge or the mode of transportation changed at all from Daniel’s day until even the days of Jesus own time; or the time of the destruction of the Temple and of Jerusalem in 70 AD? Obviously very little, with the exception that O.T. prophecy had been fulfilled in Christ. It would be that the knowledge of Christ would flood the earth one day. But even Jesus placed a way point in the Olivet discourse for man’s understanding of their times. He said that “this gospel of the kingdom would be preached to all the nations, and then the end shall come.

Again Preterist writer Godawa on page 29 of his book tells us that Jesus is right now seated at The Fathers right hand. He is now reigning and has been, but we do not see Him? So are we now reigning with Him? There are other very real questions. Is His reigning in heaven the same as His reigning on earth? Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven? Does this prayer have anything to do with how we see these prophecies?

I would seriously doubt that men seeking God’s truth would miss-interpret the symbolism in this verse. But beyond that – is it not entirely possible for the Holy Spirit, who interprets His Word, to have its end time meaning to be just for the people of those end times even as He states it to Daniel? After all He is God, and He knows our progression and the needed time for His intervention.

If this understanding is true; then we have no foundation on which to build. Just to determine what we are told that Jesus prayed for in John 17, would never be agreed upon. There would maybe be three or four ways that we could understand it’s meaning if plain sense is not His way of communication with the Church:

1. there may be no answer to Jesus prayer for unity in truth, or else:

2. There is only one future time that men of faith will come together in wisdom and understanding of what the truth really is at the end of the age or the end of time.

3. Or maybe these prayers were fulfilled but if so when? Can you really pinpoint their fulfillment?

4. Or there may even be a forth: maybe We just don’t understand what Jesus prayed for correctly in either this prayer or the prayer that He taught us to pray?

Which do you think it might be. To me: Just like the: Thy will be Done on earth prayer; It seems that some of this prayer still awaits God’s answer. And it would seem unlikely that both would not at some point be fulfilled as they are literally prayed. (My opinion), because Jesus originated both prayers.

We certainly still pray the Lord’s Prayer. If it’s already answered why do we still pray it? And why do we still see the lack of unity in God’s people surrounding many doctrines of truth, if His prayer to His Father is answered, and all of His people are sanctified in that truth?

Some obviously believe that the unity is in our tolerance of other believer’s doctrine. But is it dangerous for at least those, who are wrong, to think themselves as being right, without exploring other understandings within the body? Jesus prayer calls literally for us to be set apart in the Truth of the word. Is tolerance the way for that to occur? Or is it calling for study?

Being civil and respectful is our calling but it is to occur without sticking to our duty to God and our Brethren.

2 Timothy 4:2 preach the word; be ready in season [and] out of season; correct, rebuke, [and] exhort, with great patience and instruction. (NASB2020)

To correct, rebuke and exhort requires that we have the authority of Gods word as our truth.

Ephesians 2:4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in our wrongdoings, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly [places] in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the boundless riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. (NASB2020)

We positionally being in Him are seated with Christ to rule, but that rule still we await the physical death of this body and our resurrection. This position is ours by faith in His word.

1 Corinthians 15:24 then [comes] the end, when He hands over the kingdom to [our] God and Father, when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. 25 For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26 The last enemy that will be abolished is death. (NASB2020)

Daniel’s book is for the end of the age or time as we know it. The Revelation contains the symbolism for individual beasts or dominions from Daniel chapter 7, and they are all wrapped up in the Final Beast system, which is to be present before Messiah returns. His return will bring about great change even to the surface of the earth. We will be a new creation. I agree with scholars who conclude that in order for prophecy from the Old Testament to be fulfilled, Messiah must physically reign on earth and put all of His enemies under His feet.

Until that time occurs, we must be willing to hear each other out, we must study, we must believe what His Holy Spirit makes clear, and Trust that He will make all things clear in His own time.